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Lovely Pioneer PL-11 Turntable Repair

I’m on an attempted roll, so join me as I repair and service this beautiful vintage Pioneer PL-11 idler drive turntable.

That’s right, another article, it’s madness here @ Liquid Audio! In the interests of bringing you equipment you may not have seen before, and not just high-end gear either, let’s look at a beautiful turntable I’ve just finished bringing back to life, this gorgeous Pioneer PL-11 idler drive deck from around 1970. Hint: If you are looking for an affordable idler drive deck, this could be perfect.

The Pioneer PL-11 is a basic turntable and about the oldest I work on, but it’s a proper hi-fi player, with a good arm, fully manual operation and excellent performance when properly maintained. I’d rather have this than any cheap new turntable, and the fact that it is still running well, after careful service, some 55 years after it was made, speaks volumes about why I love equipment like this, and want to share it with you.

Pioneer PL-11
One beautiful Pioneer PL-11, desperately in need of some TLC!

Background

Idler drive turntables are less common than belt and direct drive types, but typically sound really good. Even modest machines like this Pioneer PL-11 demonstrate a solidity and stability to the sound more commonly found with expensive, heavy belt and direct drive decks.

That said, the noise performance is often worse than either belt or direct drive types, and there is more maintenance involved, too. This maintenance tends to be more specialised and less commonly performed. Many turntables like this gorgeous Pioneer PL-11 are given up dead, when all they need is a little TLC to perform at or near their best, once again.

Pioneer PL-11

Decks like this Pioneer PL-11 have moving parts that need periodic cleaning, lubrication and after this amount of time, deeper service if they are to be kept running properly. There are no belts, but there are the idler wheels, and replacements are difficult or sometimes impossible to find. That said, there are various ways we keep decks like this alive, however.

Features

Ah, yes, features! Well, the Pioneer PL-11 has very few, other than spinning vinyl at nearly the correct speed! The PL-11 is basic in the sense that it has a voltage selector, combined power/speed selector switch, jammed in this case, arm lift/lower lever, and that’s it.

There is no auto-lift, no auto-return, no strobe, nothing beyond the most basic controls. Mind you, the very best turntables lack these features too, so PL-11 owners will feel like they are in good company. For a look at other classic idler drive turntables, check out my articles on the beautiful Dual 1219 and Dual 1228.

Pioneer PL-11 Specifications

Courtesy of our friends at Vinyl Engine

Drive method: idler wheel

Platter: 300mm, 1Kg aluminium alloy diecasting

Motor: 4-pole synchronous

Speeds: 33 and 45rpm

Wow and flutter: 0.12%

Signal to noise ratio: 40dB

Tonearm: static balance type, pipe arm

Dimensions: 420 x 333 x 162mm

Weight: 7kg

Year: 1971-ish

Those looking at these specifications might think: “Meh, this thing measures poorly compared to other machines.” This observation is correct; the PL-11 does measure rather worse than some other decks. Keep in mind that the specifications don’t tell the whole story, nor do they describe the sonic character of a piece of gear. Specifications certainly do tell us something about the absolute performance limits of a piece, though, no doubt about that. Folks looking for a high-end turntable killer will not find it here.

Issues

This Pioneer PL-11 was delivered non-functional and needing some TLC. It belonged to the current owner’s father and has strong sentimental value, something I absolutely understand. The owner wanted an assessment and, if possible, for the deck to be made fully functional again, without going crazy. I was thankfully able to achieve those goals.

The main issues here are related to a lack of service. Various bits were partially or completely seized. The motor ran so slowly that one could be forgiven for thinking it was knackered. But of course it wasn’t. Issues included:

  • The platter was seized to the spindle
  • The motor shaft was partially seized
  • The entire drive train and speed change mechanism was partially seized
  • Various other minor setup and speed issues

Repair and Service

As always, we start at the top, literally, and work down. There are numerous lubrication points, everything needs inspection and cleaning to determine what additional work might be needed. We progress from there.

Pioneer PL-11
My first job here was a light clean the light and to remove the seized-on platter.
Pioneer PL-11
This reveals the idler wheel and its associated mechanisms. Note the ‘oil’ label; the idler spindle benefits from a premium synthetic bearing oil. The problem is, nobody ever oils this or anywhere else on these turntables!
Pioneer PL-11
I’ve removed the brass idler drive for cleaning and resurfacing, and to allow cleaning and direct lubrication of the very stiff motor top bearing, visible in the background.
Pioneer PL-11
Diving deeper, we see the mechanical aspects that live under the PL-11 top plate. Note the large AC motor that embarrasses even expensive modern turntables. Note also the two clear (well, now yellowed) capillary lubrication tubes leading to the motor. These need to be periodically topped up with a little lubricant, which is done from the top plate, using what’s called an oiler. They are invariably dry, as was the case here. How they work is that they are small-diameter plastic tubes with a cotton insert that wicks the lubricant along the tube to each of the two motor bearings.
Pioneer PL-11
These are those motor bearing lubrication points, leading to the capillary tubes and the motor top and bottom bearings. There’s just one problem. Nobody ever lubricates their motor bearings! You can’t use ‘sewing machine oil’ either.
Pioneer PL-11
This is the arm lift/lower mechanism. I’ve cleaned and lightly lubricated the key points here. Can you believe that this mechanism alone has around 10 points to lubricate?! Note also the entirely metal construction. Remember metal..?!
Pioneer PL-11
Here we see the speed change cam/plate actuator. This was partially seized, as was the spring plunger it acts against. This caused 1) the speed selector lever to be overly stiff, and 2) the idler to not be correctly located against the brass idler drive in the vertical axis, compounding the speed issues. Once this mechanism was freed and lubricated, I was then able to set the correct idler drive height.
Pioneer PL-11
A close up on that seized plunger. I cleaned off the congealed grease and re-greased with a clear synthetic grease.
Pioneer PL-11
Here, I’ve cleaned and lubricated the idler mechanisms, and I’m checking the height of the idler drive, by looking at where the now freed idler wheel sits during 33 and 45 RPM playback. This must be carefully adjusted to yield the correct drive height and avoid the idler wheel sitting on the shoulder of the drive.
Pioneer PL-11
It’s important not to forget the lubrication of the spindle bearing.
Pioneer PL-11
Close-up of the idler drive after minor resurfacing. Note also the three possible positions for the tensioning spring. This generally doesn’t need to be altered when everything is well maintained and correctly lubricated.
Pioneer PL-11
Let’s not forget the real wood veneer. This Pioneer PL-11 needs some furniture oil…
Pioneer PL-11
Looking better already!

Results

I can honestly say that, despite some of the crazier high-end turntables I work on, this Pioneer PL-11 repair is a job I found particularly satisfying. Not only is it great to have this deck back up and running, but the owner was on the cusp of ditching this and getting a different turntable.

I’m pleased to say that all of the issues to deck came to me for are resolved. Her owner now plans to listen to her and decide on how he wishes to proceed. This might include some new feet, and new headshell and cartridge, for example.

Pioneer PL-11
What an absolute beauty and a classic example of a simple, elegant vintage turntable that can still bring much joy to current owners, the Pioneer PL-11.

Reviving this classic turntable not only brings joy to her owner, but it keeps a piece with great sentimental value in the family, for others to enjoy. My suggestion here, as usual, was a conservative approach that minimises initial expenditure and allows the owner to evaluate the deck as a whole, without going crazy. Then, if he decides he likes what he hears, he can bring the deck in for additional work that suits his use case, budget, etc.

Pioneer PL-11
She looks lovely now, and the vintage Pioneer cartridge has a stylus with some life still left in it.

Regulars here will know I generally favour this conservative, staged approach. I think it yields the greatest enjoyment at each stage of service and improvement, and allows customers to hear and appreciate the suggested improvements and what they yield. I see this is educational too, as it helps guide future decisions, with different gear.

Pioneer PL-11
What do you think, would you like a Pioneer PL-11?
Pioneer PL-11
That speed/power on/off selector switch is now silky smooth, for perhaps the first time in decades.
Pioneer PL-11
I love turntables like this Pioneer PL-11, partly because of how good they are for what they cost now, and also because of how beautifully made they are. Compare this to a Rega P1 or Clear Audio whatever, and you’ll immediately understand what I mean, and probably not stop laughing for while either. I’ve been through the repair process with a $3000 Clear Audio turntable just out of warranty. Never again.
Pioneer PL-11
Bravo, Pioneer.

Well, that wraps up another article. I hope you’ve enjoyed it. If you’d like me to look at your Pioneer PL-11 or any other lovely Japanese idler drive turntable, don’t hesitate to let me know.

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6 thoughts on “Lovely Pioneer PL-11 Turntable Repair”

    1. Hi Greg, thanks for your question. If I understand your question correctly, nobody pays me to create content, and I’ve never been paid to create it, though I wish I were! I allocate time away from the bench to write articles like this one. Some can take a day to put together, which is costly for me and one reason why this sort of content is unusual. Hopefully I’ve answered your question, but let me know if you have any follow-up!

  1. Interesting and enjoyable article. I can see the family resemblance to the PL12D, (my first real turntable) I have a PL112D which I’m going to donate to a musician friend of mine, she wants to get back into some vinyl replay.

  2. Great article! My dad owns a Pioneer Rondo 3000 belt drive turntable (which I think is just a PL-12 variant that was bundled with their receiver) – but I never knew Pioneer made an idler drive that preceded it. Do you rate the PL-11 higher than the belt drive PL-12 that followed it?

    1. Thanks, Anthony. My Dad also had a PL-12, that’s how I got into vinyl. I still have it somewhere. The PL-12 is a little quieter, but I slightly prefer the sound of the PL-11, when set up properly, of course, and that’s the usual problem; they rarely are.

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