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Sansui AU-317 Amplifier Repair, Review & Rant!

Come with me this time as I repair a Sansui AU-317 integrated amplifier and discuss problems associated with the wrong approach to caring for old beauties like this.

This isn’t really a rant of course, we leave that to others, but it is a chance for me to express my thoughts, to hopefully educate, inform and help readers make better decisions. Welcome back, everyone!

I’ve just repaired this lovely Sansui AU-317, a classic integrated amplifier from the late ’70s that we will chat more about as we go. This case presents a useful learning opportunity and provides pause for owners of such equipment to carefully evaluate who they entrust it with.

By the way, I’ve been busy updating the FAQs and the Hall of Shame, in particular case #16, featuring one of the worst-made hi-fi products I’ve seen in a while, and a business owner who threatened me with legal action for making people aware of it. But I digress… Time to geek out a little bit at one of the best budget amplifiers ever made. Let’s go 😉

For more about this story and a nice little video summary that has gone viral, by my YouTube channel standards at least, check this out:

The Sansui AU-317

Many of you will have seen my own Sansui AU-317 in the workshop over the years. I love these amplifiers, their baby brothers the AU-117 and AU-217 and the bigger brother AU-517 and AU-717, AU-D707/AU-819 and AU-919. I repaired an AU-217 only last week and there is a lot to love about the slightly more capable AU-317. The rest of the range is of course legendary and I love these stylish, serviceable and great-sounding amplifiers.

The Sansui AU-317 is a fully discrete component, full-featured design that can form the heart of a nice little system. With 50 Watts per channel and a solid 10kg build, these babies from 1977 – 1980 make modern $1000 amplifiers look like the toys they are. The AU-317 has a really good discrete phono preamplifier containing some very nice parts built in, a headphone ‘amplifier’ (really just a socket, but you know what I mean), and bypassable tone controls.

These amplifiers are completely repairable even now, more than 40 years on. Virtually nothing would render an AU-317 unrepairable unless it caught fire maybe, so there’s a lot to love here. Try repairing a Cambridge Audio CXA61 in ten years and you’ll appreciate my enthusiasm for equipment like the AU-317.

Sansui AU-317 Specifications

Courtesy of HiFi Engine (absolute legends, BTW!)

  • Power output: 50 watts per channel into 8Ω (stereo)
  • Frequency response: 5Hz to 70kHz
  • Total harmonic distortion: 0.03%
  • Damping factor: 70
  • Input sensitivity: 20mV (mic), 2.5mV (MM), 150mV (line)
  • Signal-to-noise ratio: 77dB (MM), 100dB (line)
  • Channel separation: 65dB (MM), 73dB (line)
  • Output: 150mV (line), 1V (Pre out)
  • Speaker load impedance: 8Ω (minimum)
  • Semiconductors: 51 x transistors, 25 x diodes, 2 x FET
  • Dimensions: 430 x 110 x 340mm
  • Weight: 9.5kg
  • Year: 1978

The Right Approach

I focus on preserving and rejuvenating classic hi-fi equipment, so I don’t want to waste too much time discussing what not to do, but there’s no avoiding it in cases like this. Most regulars will know I have a particular dislike of poor workmanship, unnecessary work and especially the ‘recappers’, so no surprises here.

There’s a ton of Sansui AU-317s around and they fail occasionally, in different ways, but repairing an AU-217, AU-317, AU-517, AU-717 etc., should be no big deal. Seriously. Successfully repairing equipment like this is heavily dependent on a technician’s approach. Can there be right and wrong approaches? There ARE right and wrong approaches, not just my opinion, demonstrably incorrect ways to do things.

The wrong approach, so often applied to lovely pieces like this hinges around:

  • Individuals being unable to technically assess equipment in front of them, so they continuously resort to…
  • Shotgun parts replacement suggested by third parties and ‘improvements’ typically found in forums and based on what people often with little experience or knowledge ‘reckon’ should be done instead of knowing/determining what needs to be done based on a skilled assessment.
  • Removing perfectly good original parts and replacing them with junk like we see in this example.
  • Not testing components and circuits due to a generally non-technical, unskilled approach that has no place in a technical troubleshooting environment.

This approach is predictable wasteful, ineffectual and prone to damaging and devaluing equipment. Sadly, this is by far the most common because it requires the least knowledge and technical proficiency. And because of the internet.

The right approach is quite different because:

  • It is a conservative, technically focused one that assesses and cares for the equipment in front of a technician, rather than in a forum somewhere!
  • Parts are replaced where necessary to improve the performance of equipment, with components equal to or better than the original.
  • It focuses on repairing faults and restoring perfect operation, whilst keeping to the original design intent with careful, measured technically skilled work.
  • It is informed by a technician’s experience, knowledge and skill, and the condition and faults of equipment in front of that technician based on hands-on assessment.

This approach is sadly far less common because it requires an unusual level of experience, skill, technical knowledge, and the ability to find and solve problems without external assistance. Everything about this approach is better though and the upside is that it adds value and performance to hi-fi equipment, making it more collectible, more desirable and more enjoyable to use.

Sansui AU-317
Here’s the subject of today’s article, the venerable Sansui AU-317, a truly great budget-integrated amplifier. This one came sans-phono preamplifier shield, filled with bad new parts and unusable due to two faults.

“She Needs a New Flux Capacitor, Sir…”

So, this Sansui AU-317 went to a local repairer, via her previous owner. Like some others, this business has borrowed from my approach, content and style without acknowledgement. Where this business differs from other copycats is that they’ve changed their business name at least three times in just a few years.

Why? Probably because of accumulating some very bad reviews and losing a significant case in Joondalup Magistrates Court in 2024. Does any of this matter? Readers can make up their minds but I would want these details before deciding where to take my cherished hi-fi equipment. I won’t name the business unless it becomes necessary, but they are skating on thin ice…

The amp went in for presumably the same issues she came to me for: unlistenable levels of distortion and DC offset that rendered the amplifier completely unusable. She was sent back with those same problems but minus all of her original high-quality capacitors and with a new set of crappy ‘Suntan’ brand caps, driver devices and trimmer potentiometers installed, at the owner’s expense.

That owner finally gave up on her after reading the diagnosis I’m about to show you and listed her for sale. The current owner, my customer, purchased her for next to nothing. The seller kindly suggested the amplifier should come to me. Thank you to the previous owner.

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Suntan capacitors – not something we would ever want to see in beautiful old gear like this. Note also new trimpots and NEC TO-220 driver devices added for no reason. Also, note the crud on this board, remnants of which include Sansui polychloroprene glue.

What caught my attention though was the diagnosis provided by the previous repairer:

“The transformer related to the power section is on its way out” and “the JFET ICs need to be replaced.”

Previous repairer

Complete and utter nonsense.

This is gold, to be honest, and while the customer might not understand what this ‘means’, any competent technician reading this will think “Hang on a minute..!”.

Why? Well, unfortunately, none of that ‘diagnosis’ is accurate, nor even possible in this amplifier. He might as well have said, “She needs a new flux capacitor!”

flux capacitor
Yes, still available from Jaycar for just $200,000 AUD, if you need to replace your flux capacitor. Suntan doesn’t make these, thankfully. I need one of these for my Prado…

Nonsense Breakdown

Let’s dig into this as it might be informative for some. What does “The transformer related to the power section is on its way out” mean, exactly? Is there a transformer party somewhere that this transformer needs to attend? Transformers – more than meets the eye!

Note that there is only one transformer, so why qualify this with “the power section”? Why not just say the transformer is on the way out? This cannot happen by the way, transformers either work or they don’t. And what is “the power section” apart from a great band name, potentially..?!

As for the “JFET ICs”, there are no integrated circuits or ICs in an AU-317, it’s one of the lovely things about the design. The service manual refers to the input differential JFET pairs as ICs, but that’s a translation thing, they are simple dual JFET packages, not integrated circuits.

These JEFT packages work perfectly, a fact confirmed by simple testing, or even a quick test of the amplifier. Even if these packages were “on the way out”, replacement is straightforward for a competent technician, so why not test them? Why blame them for the amplifier’s issues? And why replace all the trimmer potentiometers and driver devices?

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More Suntan and Lelon junk parts that have no place in good hi-fi equipment. Tell that to Cambridge Audio and NAD…

A Better Way

Again, some may wonder: “Mike, why does any of this matter!” It matters because this amplifier was someone’s pride and joy. They no longer own it because of this nonsense diagnosis and whilst I’ve fixed the amp, it now contains a ton of junk parts, and that sucks. If this doesn’t matter to all hi-fi equipment owners, there is something wrong!

This diagnosis was given because the person giving it needed to tell the owner something useful or fix the amp and they couldn’t, so they simply made it up. This work can be challenging, but sending equipment back with false, misleading or made-up fault descriptions is dishonest and unethical.

It would be infinitely better to say “I spent an hour trying to locate the fault and I couldn’t”. Sending equipment back unrepaired, having done one’s best within a certain time frame, is occasionally part of tackling complex technical repair work. Many repairs are not possible within an hour or two. As long as this is carefully explained, it’s sometimes part of the job and part of being human.

Ultimately, people doing work like this need to do better. If you did this or something like it and you want to copy what I do, I challenge you to copy my ethical, honest approach, rather than my layout, style and content. You might find it helps business.

Service & Repair

The path to repairing this lovely classic AU-317 was to isolate, diagnose and repair the faults, of which there were two. That took six electronic components and some time.

Fault 1 – Distortion. The distortion was caused by blown current limit resistors in the bias/drive circuit that turned this amplifier into a class-B design with no driver stage. That means that huge signals would be needed to drive the output stage at all, and what you get would be badly distorted. I replaced the current limit resistors, set the bias current and bingo, the distortion was gone.

Fault 2 – DC offset in the right channel of the phono preamp. DC offsets are typically caused by leaky or drifty small signal semiconductors and the obvious pair to check in the right channel of the phono preamp is the right channel input differential pair. Sure enough, one device was bad, so I replaced both with a new hand-matched pair with improved specs.

Some critical cleaning, service and adjustment completed the work here and is what had this AU-317 running perfectly again.

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A plan view of the AU-317 as she arrived. She’s dirty and needs a deep chassis wash, general service and repair.
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The heavily flux-contaminated board must be cleaned. Note also the output device part numbers written on the board. There are neater ways of recording what goes where and most of them don’t involve writing on a customer’s equipment. These didn’t even need to be desoldered so goodness only knows what went on here. Note the pad damage caused by poor technique and tools.
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Also, note the diabolical soldering and flux residue. I’ll never understand people leaving boards looking like this. Yes, I’m helping my competitors by writing these articles, but COME ON! This is caused by low-quality solder and no clean-up regimen. Yes, this saves time and is therefore cheaper. Can you see where this is going..?
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This is the same board after cleaning and this is how these boards should look. Which would you prefer in your equipment?
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After a deep chassis wash and dry, the amplifier is on but no current is flowing through these output devices, hence the zero reading on the Flukes. This is a significant problem, this is the key to the problem and yet it went unmentioned in the flux capacitor ‘diagnosis’.
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Four small parts later and it’s a bingo! The amplifier now runs and works correctly. It’s just a shame it now contains a set of Suntan capacitors, cheap trimmers and probably fake NEC transistors. I can only hope that these guys keep copying and eventually learn not to do this.
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Blown current limit ‘fusible’ resistors. No new trimmers, transistors or capacitors needed. There’s often confusion around fusible resistors. All resistors are ‘fuses’ if you think about it, but these are a little more sensitive to overcurrent and tend to drift upwards rather than fail open. That’s good, it prevents excessive current flow as it’s designed to, but often the gear will still work when these fail, but with significantly degraded performance.
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It’s always a good idea to service relays switching any meaningful amount of current.
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All this pain just to get to a couple of pesky, leaky transistors! Worth it though because it’s the only way to resolve this issue.
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Only one of these was guilty, but you would never just replace one device in a differential pair, and especially never with a different type of device… Right..?! I always replace a differential pair with two new, hand-matched devices, even if only one device fails. This assures low DC drift and offset. How’s the resolution of the iPhone camera by the way? Very impressive!
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So that’s it, this is what needed to be replaced in this amplifier to resolve its issues.
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The cleaned, repaired and serviced Sansui AU-317. Woo hoo!

Results

This Sansui AU-317 repair was particularly rewarding because her owner is such a nice guy and he appreciates the approach I’ve described in this article. He owns many Sansui amplifiers including a Sansui AU-101, AU-217, AU-555A and AU-4900, all of which I’ve serviced and repaired for him but his favourites are the AU-217 and AU-317 I recently worked on. Here’s what he told me about the AU-317:

[The] 317 sounds spot on, you are the man, thanks again Mike. She sounds bloody awesome, I hate to admit its in a tight second spot for my favourite.

Michael B
Sansui AU-317

In terms of overhaul and restoration, less is more, especially with pieces in generally good condition. Overhauls by the right people are worth having done, but as always, the devil is in the details. The right technician won’t be getting their information from forums, installing Suntan capacitors or charging $1500 AUD to overhaul a basic amplifier. They will already know what to do, based on the condition of the equipment in question. Keep this in mind.

Sansui AU-317

If you want to spend that much on a vintage amplifier, I suggest you take the $1500, sell the AU-317 and put all of that money into a nice Sansui AU-717, AU-819 or AU-919. That’s going to give you a far better piece of gear and bang for your buck than going crazy with an AU-317 or AU-4900.

Sansui AU-317

The Bottom Line

Want a beautiful-looking, great-sounding, affordable, reliable, repairable moderate-power integrated amplifier? I highly recommend you consider the Sansui AU-317 if so. These are solid, well-designed, well-made pieces of Japanese hi-fi history.

Nothing like this will be made again and at their current prices, you can’t go wrong. I’d take one of these over new plastic rubbish with Bluetooth integration every day of the week. Just take it to someone with the right approach when it needs service!

As always, thanks for reading and I hope you found this article informative. If you’d like me to look at your Sansui AU-317 or any other lovely Sansui amplifier, get in touch.

Sansui AU-317 Integrated Amplifier

$500 - $800 AUD
8.5

Build Quality

7.0/10

Features

8.5/10

Sound Quality

7.0/10

Servicability

10.0/10

Bang-Per-Buck

10.0/10

Pros

  • Full-featured integrated amplifer
  • Excellent phono preamplifier
  • Tape and headphone functions
  • Superbly servicable
  • A great performer in its niche

Cons

  • Lacks slam, air, refinement etc. of course, given what it is.

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14 thoughts on “Sansui AU-317 Amplifier Repair, Review & Rant!”

    1. I have an old Sansui AU 317 from my dads estate that I would like to sell if anyone is interested!? Or knows best place to move it!? It’s from my fathers estate and it’s okay condition. I am in Brisbane. Anyway I came across your article while researching this amp. I don’t know if I am out of place mentioning it here. But it be nice for it to go to someone who is interested in this. Cheers Kris

      1. Hi Kris, not at all, you are welcome to mention it here, but you’d be better advertising it via mainstream selling channels like Gumtree, Facebook marketplace, Stereonet, etc.

  1. What an unconscionable disaster was inflicted on that poor AU-317. Thank goodness the owner entrusted it to you! As always, an interesting and educational read from Mike, especially when it’s about a Sansui!!

  2. Hi Mike,

    Nice work as always, and agreed the 317 is a great “little” amp. Having repaired/restored a great deal of Sansui gear over the last 10 years or so on the east coast of Australia I can attest to the failure (drift high or go open circuit) of the “current limit/fuse resistors” in nearly every amp/receiver that has these fitted. You may not be aware, on the 317 there is also a fuse resistor fitted to each channel of the Control Amp (tone control) board – R17 and R18 68ohm 1/4W. These are also invariably high in resistance or open circuit.

    One other thing (typo I believe), the 317 doesn’t have a dedicated headphone amp, but it does have a dedicated Mike amp.

    Keep up the great work!

    Cheers
    John

    1. Hi John, thank you for the kind words and it sounds like we’ve both worked on lots of Sansui, me since 2009. You are quite right about the fusible resistors being problematic in these and many other amplifiers. I try to limit the technical detail I present in these articles a) because certain competitors seem to enjoy visiting which helps them but not me!, and b) I’m mindful of not making articles too technically ‘heavy’ for the average reader. Not a typo re the headphone amp, the whole thing essentially is a headphone amp when used with ‘phones but agreed, it doesn’t have a separate active headphone amplifier/buffer circuit. The mic amp is a classic feature I rarely mention but some will enjoy it for sure. Karaoke anyone..?!

  3. Bravo, Mike! I’m so glad that I have you looking after my current system (the best I’ve ever owned) and with several components bought from you. I’d hate to have to take my gear to anyone else. Cheers, David

  4. Hello everyone, I would like to ask, sunsui au-307 makes a beeping sound when it is turned on! What components should be replaced?

    1. If only it were that simple, Simon! Thanks for your question though. To clarify, your question is equivalent to: “My car won’t start, what parts should be replaced?” This cannot be known without inspection, testing, and diagnosis of the issue/s. I suggest a visit to a local specialist repairer to let them fix this for you.

  5. Hi Mike! Nice repair. I have been playing with my au 317 for a few days now and after doing a few hours of headphone listening and thinking it sounds amazing, can you explain a little bit more on how the the whole thing essentially is a headphone amp when used with ‘phones? i find this piece of gear to sound worlds nicer than my yamaha as801. I have done a/b listening with an amp switcher and my cd player playing both out of rca for the sansui and digitally with optical for the yamaha. I couldn’t believe what i was missing with this new amp. cheers!

    1. Hi Alex, glad you enjoyed this one and are loving your AU-317. If you think that sounds nice, wait till you hear a 717 or higher! The AU-317 does not utilise a seperate headphone buffer amplifier circuit, rather it takes the main amplifier output and simply feeds it through limiting resistors to the ‘phones, like many amplifiers of this period. For most ‘normal’ headphones this works pretty well and cuts down on extra and often unnecessary components. It sounds like you are hearing that for yourself. An integrated amplifier like the A-S801 is so heavily compromised with everything they jam into it that I’m not at all surprised you prefer the 317, despite its lower power rating. I still use one as my bench test amplifier, lovely things!

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